objectivity
A poignant response to Rob Bell's latest book Love Wins:
http://www.boundlessline.org/2011/03/how-firm-a-foundation-episode-166.html
(Skip to about halfway through the show to get to that particular segment.)
Some verses referenced:
Matthew 25:46
Luke 13:3
John 8:24
John 14:6
John 10:30
Luke 16:19-31
Matthew 13:49-50
Revelation 20:11-15
Hebrews 9:27
Mark 9:47-49
The referenced review of the book by Kevin DeYoung is summarized and also available in PDF format here:
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/03/14/rob-bell-love-wins-review/
Some quotes from the segment:
"If there's no divine retribution--no punishment of sin--God becomes less than holy, and the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross was actually unnecessary." Paraphrase of statement by Alex McFarland
"If I put more stock in the worthiness of man rather than the holiness of God and the clear revelation of scripture, that's really a type of idolatry" - Alex McFarland
"We are called to proclaim the gospel, not revise it; we are called to make disciples, not placate those that haven't been changed." - Alex McFarland
Stated things that support the reality of hell, punishment of sin, etc:
Scripture, sound reasoning, church history, church leaders, some of the best and brightest thinkers throughout history, and Jesus Christ Himself.....all support the doctrine of hell.
Words mentioned and discussed:
Exegesis
ex (Greek prefix) = to draw out of
Meaning: to draw the meaning out of the text
Eisogesis / Eisegesis
eis (Greek prefix) = to project into
Meaning: to project our meaning into the text
Objectivity - There is an objective meaning in the text.
Thus, the question to ask when reading scripture IS: "What does that mean?"
The question ISN'T: "What does that mean to you?" or "What does this mean to me?"
(And I might add, an appropriate question to ask when reading scripture passages is the following: "What does this passage reveal and emphasize about the character of God--Who He is, what He is about, what He has done and is doing?")
Paraphrased statement by Alex McFarland in the segment:
While man was not intended to go to hell, humanity that rejects God's way--humanity that chooses disobedience over fellowship with the Lord, the destination of the spiritually dead is hell....that's what the Bible teaches. I don't like it, that's why we have to tell the world about....the restoration that Jesus offers, about forgiveness and Christian growth.
http://www.boundlessline.org/2011/03/how-firm-a-foundation-episode-166.html
(Skip to about halfway through the show to get to that particular segment.)
Some verses referenced:
Matthew 25:46
Luke 13:3
John 8:24
John 14:6
John 10:30
Luke 16:19-31
Matthew 13:49-50
Revelation 20:11-15
Hebrews 9:27
Mark 9:47-49
The referenced review of the book by Kevin DeYoung is summarized and also available in PDF format here:
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/03/14/rob-bell-love-wins-review/
Some quotes from the segment:
"If there's no divine retribution--no punishment of sin--God becomes less than holy, and the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross was actually unnecessary." Paraphrase of statement by Alex McFarland
"If I put more stock in the worthiness of man rather than the holiness of God and the clear revelation of scripture, that's really a type of idolatry" - Alex McFarland
"We are called to proclaim the gospel, not revise it; we are called to make disciples, not placate those that haven't been changed." - Alex McFarland
Stated things that support the reality of hell, punishment of sin, etc:
Scripture, sound reasoning, church history, church leaders, some of the best and brightest thinkers throughout history, and Jesus Christ Himself.....all support the doctrine of hell.
Words mentioned and discussed:
Exegesis
ex (Greek prefix) = to draw out of
Meaning: to draw the meaning out of the text
Eisogesis / Eisegesis
eis (Greek prefix) = to project into
Meaning: to project our meaning into the text
Objectivity - There is an objective meaning in the text.
Thus, the question to ask when reading scripture IS: "What does that mean?"
The question ISN'T: "What does that mean to you?" or "What does this mean to me?"
(And I might add, an appropriate question to ask when reading scripture passages is the following: "What does this passage reveal and emphasize about the character of God--Who He is, what He is about, what He has done and is doing?")
Paraphrased statement by Alex McFarland in the segment:
While man was not intended to go to hell, humanity that rejects God's way--humanity that chooses disobedience over fellowship with the Lord, the destination of the spiritually dead is hell....that's what the Bible teaches. I don't like it, that's why we have to tell the world about....the restoration that Jesus offers, about forgiveness and Christian growth.
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